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TOPIC: MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017
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#270724
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 7 Months ago Karma: 0
Hi Guys,

Did anyone attend the discussion class held on Saturday, in Pretoria?? If so, please can some kind soul email me notes as to what was discussed.

mika.sooknandan@gmail.com

Faithfully,
Rashmika
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#271281
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 6 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: -2
Hi all

If anyone has the tutorial letters 201 for the years 2009 to 2016, please do email them to me sheena.poonen@gmail.com
Those will be extremely helpful.

Thank you
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#271459
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 0
Hi fellow students

Can anyone please send me Tutorial 201 and class discussion notes for Exam if attended a discussion class.

my email: tshepho.ngobeni@gmail.com

Thanking you in Advance

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#271502
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 6 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 1
So relieved I passed the F1 concession for this module - failed it 3 times
Hardest subject I have ever had to do in my life
Good luck to you all - hope you all nail it in the exams
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#272547
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 1
Hi Everyone

On the hunt for 201 tuts from 2013 to date.

If anyone can help a colleague out, please email me via jw.mendelson@gmail.com

Thanks in advance!
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#273029
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 5 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: 0
Hey Hey,

Who here wrote the first Exam?

Did the exam differ a lot from previous years?

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#273343
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 5 Months, 1 Week ago Karma: -3
Good Afternoon. Please assist with the tut for 2017. I have taken the subject for my second semester and would like to start right away - registered and awaiting activation. Please e-mail to: bbbee@webmail.co.za. Thank you
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#273372
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 5 Months ago Karma: 0
What would happen when there's two parties after theft regarding a crossed cheque marked non-negotiable?
Will both of them be liable to true owner as possessors?
Or only the one who deposits the cheque into his bank account?

Any captains? Please advise
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#273373
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 5 Months ago Karma: 1
81 True owner of stolen or lost crossed cheque marked 'not negotiable' entitled to
compensation from certain subsequent possessors
(1) If a cheque was stolen or lost while it was crossed as authorized by this Act
and while it bore on it the words 'not negotiable', and it was paid by the bank upon which
it was drawn, under circumstances which do not render such bank liable in terms of this
Act to the true owner of the cheque for any loss he may sustain owing to the cheque
having been paid, the true owner shall, if he suffered any loss as a result of the theft or
loss of the cheque, be entitled to recover from any person who was a possessor thereof
after the theft or loss, and either gave a consideration therefor or took it as a donee, an
amount equal to the true owner's said loss or the amount of the cheque, whichever is the
lesser.
[Sub-s. (1) substituted by s. 38 (a) of Act 56 of 2000.]
(2)
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#273426
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 5 Months ago Karma: 0
C, an employee of A , persuades A that he owes B a certain sum of money. However, B does not exist.
A is unaware of this and draws a cheque in favour of B. C forges B's signature on the back of the cheque
and delivers it to X in settlement of his debt. Is X a holder, holder in due course or possessor?

This example is making me spin, anyone can assist?

He cant be a holder because of forged endorsement, and also not a holder in due course.
But this should be a bearer cheque because its made to a non-existent person.
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#273438
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 5 Months ago Karma: 2
My head is also spinning!

I think he is a holder in due course because:

The fact that the cheque is payable to a fictitious or non-existing person makes it a bearer cheque.
A holder is the payee or indorsee of a bill who is in possession of an order instrument or the bearer in possession.
Because it's a bearer cheque any person in possession of the cheque is a holder. X is in possession of the bearer cheque and thus its holder.
A holder in due course is a holder who complies with all the requirements as per section 27. As X complies with all the requirements as per sec.27, he is a holder in due course.

Bearer cheques are negotiated by mere delivery. Endorsements are unnessary for negotiation.


Don't know how I'm going to pass this module.
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#273446
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 5 Months ago Karma: 0
Thanks Larissa

Your answer sounds about right!
Tough module , hope we can pass
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#273460
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 5 Months ago Karma: 2
Good luck everyone. I pray that all of us pass today. Would not want to go through this turmoil again
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#273479
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 5 Months ago Karma: 0
Hi Larrisa

Good luck to you all. I request tutorial letters for this module
when you finish to write, I want register next semester my email
tinyiko383@gmail.com.
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#275580
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 4 Months ago Karma: 18
I can't believe the marks are still not out. Registration closes in 3 days and I need all results back before they authorize 7 modules to complete the degree
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#275582
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 4 Months ago Karma: 3
D0N wrote:
I can't believe the marks are still not out. Registration closes in 3 days and I need all results back before they authorize 7 modules to complete the degree

Check your mylife email. Results will be released 19 July.
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Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 4 Months ago Karma: 18
ThornInDaHeel wrote:
D0N wrote:
I can't believe the marks are still not out. Registration closes in 3 days and I need all results back before they authorize 7 modules to complete the degree

Check your mylife email. Results will be released 19 July.


I do, and it forwards to my personal email, and I have not received any emails regarding results achieved or release dates. Even if they did update the final release date to 19 July, they've extended it several times this semester ... which is the part I find unbelievable
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#275693
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 4 Months ago Karma: 0
In exactly the same position as you: 7 needed for degree and desperately waiting for this mark. This must be the most pathetic department out of all: Outdated course material, bad communication with students and arrogant lecturers. They better stay in education, because in the real world they will be out of a job within weeks with their attitude and output. UNISA is doing all future generations a favour by discontinuing this course. I know of people who only passed this subject on the 4th run, people close to the end who obviously know how to study and want to finish. This should have signaled the powers that be that there is a discrepancy between course material and exam papers in this subject a long time ago. Hopefully the new subject will be more relevant...
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Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 4 Months ago Karma: 18
GerhardM wrote:
In exactly the same position as you: 7 needed for degree and desperately waiting for this mark. This must be the most pathetic department out of all: Outdated course material, bad communication with students and arrogant lecturers. They better stay in education, because in the real world they will be out of a job within weeks with their attitude and output. UNISA is doing all future generations a favour by discontinuing this course. I know of people who only passed this subject on the 4th run, people close to the end who obviously know how to study and want to finish. This should have signaled the powers that be that there is a discrepancy between course material and exam papers in this subject a long time ago. Hopefully the new subject will be more relevant...

Funny you should say that, I also know of people who normally do well failing this module several times over! (Suppose it's not funny at all )
An email was just sent out - Exam results will be out soon was the heading - one sentence congratulating those who have passed, and a whole bunch of info regarding options to rewrite... how do we process that!?
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#275740
Re:MRL4801 -Negotiable Instruments Semester 1 2017 4 Months ago Karma: 0
Wrote a supp for this one on 9th May, so hoping I pass this module I cannot deal with a 3rd exam. waiting over 2 months for this result is ridiculous.
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